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#5427 - 06/03/00 04:08 PM Christians Converting to Hinduism ***
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#5428 - 06/07/00 06:50 PM A growing challange to Christianity in Mizoram [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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#5429 - 06/25/00 06:47 PM Tribal Family Converts to Hinduism [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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Tribal family reconverted to Hinduism

Cuttack, June 18 (UNI) - A five-member tribal family was
reconverted to Hinduism in a remote village of this
district yesterday, the second reconversion incident in
Orissa this month.

The reconversion was performed by Swami Prana Rupananda,
president of the Cuttack unit of Banabasi Kalyan Ashram,
in the ashram premises at Keutibereni village near
Choudwar, about 25 km from here.

On June 2, seventy-two Christian tribals from Manoharpur
village in Keonjhar district, where Australian missionary
Graham Staines was burnt to death, were converted to
Hinduism at a function attended by the Shankaracharya of
Puri, Swami Nischalananda Saraswati.

While the reconversion at Monoharpur village had the
prior approval of the district administration, no prior
approval was sought for yesterday's reconversion
organised by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP).

On receiving information, Choudwar police station
officer-in- charge J N Mohanty along with an Additional
Tahsildar rushed to the spot today to inquire into the
matter. The police and the district administration
claimed that neither the converts nor the organisers had
intimated them about the reconversion or filed affidavits
as required under the Orissa Freedom of Religion Act.

Sunday, June 18, 2000

#5430 - 07/21/00 01:50 AM Conversion of Samuel Stokes [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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This article depicts the life of an American Christian missionary who himself converted to Hinduism


#5431 - 09/07/00 07:32 PM Re: Christians Converting to Hinduism [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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Dear Hindu Brothers and Sisters,

To begin with, I would like to pay tribute to Ram Swarup, a man of
great importance to our Indian brothers as a sage of the Vedic
renaissance, but also to me personally as a young European whom he
welcomed so kindly.

To our Indian brethren I have nothing to teach about this remarkable
man who played such an essential part in defending and explaining the
Tradition. His friends have paid tribute to him with reverence: Sita
Ram Goel (the courageous publisher of Voice of India, who ensured that
the sage, who was ostracised for a time, could express his thought
despite the censorship, hostility and indifference he faced), and
David Frawley in his superb preface to the posthumously published work
of Ram Swarup On Hinduism.(1) Your Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee
rightly said that he was «a representative of India’s rishi tradition
in the modern age».

As for me, I can never adequately express my debt to Ram Swarup whom I
first met three years ago. We had corresponded before I came to India,
and I had published a long interview with him (and Sita Ram Goel and
K.R. Malkani) on Hindutva, which was undoubtedly the first special
issue published in French with the participation of intellectuals of
the Vedic renaissance (2). Ram Swarup approved of the approach of my
journal Antaios, which deals with the awakening of the native -
Pagan - religions of Europe, and with freedom from the dogma of the
Semitic religions and materialism. The first thing he did when he saw
me was to put his hand on my shoulder as a father would and say, his
eyes sparkling with kindness: «Ah, you are young, so you will be able
to fight for a long time». This remark, coming from the old combatant
that he was, who had actively fought the major deceptions of the
century (colonialism, Marxism, anti-Hindu secularism, Christian
missions, Islamophilia, etc.), was a compliment. He seemed to trust
the young foreigner who had come to meet him. It was above all a call
to lucidity, a call to battle. Not a battle to be waged exclusively
with the outside world, but also a battle against the enemy within,
for the old sage knew that our worst enemy is within us and that our
internal enemy is the most difficult to conquer. In the course of our
long subsequent discussions, I came to appreciate the immense breadth
of his culture, his generosity, and also his sense of humour. To have
met a man of such human value is a privilege for which I cannot thank
the Gods enough. It was Ram Swarup who gave me my first lessons in
Sanatana Dharma. He encouraged me on the difficult path of
rediscovering my identity which had been repressed first by the
imprint of centuries of Christianity then with the stamp of
materialism. It was he who, on the last occasion we met and when the
time came to say goodbye, was able to find the right words to
encourage and advise me to practice mental yoga so as to face up to a
hostile or at the least an indifferent world. His friendship was both
deep and dispassionate, and for this his influence was all the more
striking. I have dwelt on these very personal considerations to show
you how important this man was and remains for all those who strive
for the restoration of the Dharma. Ram Swarup is an example to be
followed, a true spiritual guide.

As a result of the contacts we had with Ram Swarup, Sita Ram Goel and
so many other Hindu friends, our European group came to understand
that we were not alone, and that our work found its echo at the other
end of the continent. Let us now make a brief overview of the work of
the Polytheistic journal Antaios that I have been directing since
1993. Mircea Eliade, a specialist on India, founded the review in
1959. In the 1920s, he had been a disciple of Surendranath Dasgupta,
the well-known historian of Indian philosophy, and the German writer
Ernst Jünger (a disciple of Nietzsche among others) who said in 1959:
«a free world can only be a spiritual world». The periodical was
published in German until 1971. Its objective was to combat Western
nihilism by a return to classical sources. In 1993, a small group of
us revived Antaios with the blessing of the venerable German writer
Jünger, who remained interested in our work until his death in 1998 at
the age of 103. He was our oldest reader.

We are also followers of another great example : Alain Daniélou, the
French indologist, initiated to traditional Shaivism in Kashi where he
lived more than 15 years. Danielou devoted his entire life to the
defense of Hindu Dharma. He was himself a follower of Swami
Karpatriji. He worked with Karpatriji, translated some of his texts in
several languages (and also translated in Hindi texts of René Guénon,
for instance in Karpatriji’s journal Siddhanta). In his passionate
autobiography The way of the Labyrinth, Daniélou wrote these lines :
I tried to offer an insight into the profound values of this
extraordinary civilisation, the only one of all the great
civilisations of the ancient world that has survived, whose
contribution, were it better known, could revolutionize modern
thinking and bring a new Renaissance. This was probably why people are
so afraid of it » (3). When I read these lines fifteen years ago, it
was a sort of revelation. Since then, I have never forgotten Daniélou’
s fundamental message.

From its beginnings, the orientation of Antaios has been clearly
pagan: to restore in Europe – and on other continents – the polytheist
and non-dualist wisdom of the eternal tradition, which you refer to as
Sanatana Dharma. This is not a new philosophical direction in Europe.
Since Antiquity, and despite the censorship of Christianity, there
have always been more or less hidden dissidents. Today, the Church has
lost the total power it previously possessed, and thus it has become
possible to challenge secular cultural and spiritual self alienation
and to reaffirm, finally, after centuries of being in hiding,
Paganism - that is to say the restoration of non conversion-based
beliefs, non dogmatic approach, self- and God-realization, and wisdom
such as Vidya, the way of knowledge. All this, which still exists in
India despite Muslim, Christian and materialistic aggressions, also
existed in Europe. But in Europe, the work of the missionaries has
been successfully achieved: temples have been burnt or converted to
other uses; holy books have been consigned to the flames; priests (our
“Brahmins”) have been killed, and our beliefs have been ridiculed. In
summary, a veritable spiritual genocide, like all the initiatives in
favour of conversion on the five continents by the protagonists of the
one and only deity, i.e. the jealous God of the Monotheists.

How was pagan thought able to survive the catastrophe caused by the
christianisation of Europe? To reinforce its hold over the minds of
the people, the Church needed the help of the stalwarts of pagan
thought and rituals. Thus, it appropriated for its own use – often
superficially - the philosophy of Plato, Aristotle and Plotinus, the
old festivals, rituals and symbols. Despite this, scholarly Christian
priests were fascinated by the very pagan wisdom that they had
persecuted, but which lived on in their memories (and their libraries)
as a living reproach.

For serious students of Greek philosophy, particularly of the
Pre-Socratic philosophers (Pythagorus, Empedocles), the link with
Brahmanic thought is obvious: transmigration of the soul, concept of
eternal return, importance of harmonics and primordial sounds, ascetic
way of life, vegetarianism, etc. As our beloved Ram Swarup reminds us
so well in his spiritual legacy «the Greece of Pythagoras, Plato and
Plotinus has more in common with Hindu India than with Christian
Europe» (On Hinduism, p. 98). Books have been written about the links
between Greece and India: for instance R. Baine Harris ed.,
Neoplatonism and Indian thought (Delhi 1992). Greece and India, and
also the Celtic world (the Celtic Druids are the cousins of the
Brahmins) may be distant in space but they are close in spirit. Their
origins are identical, since the brilliant Vedic and Hellenic
civilisations go back to a common pre-Vedic and pre-Hellenic source.
This was probably a polar source, as Lokamanya Bal Gangâdhar Tilak has
capably demonstrated in his book which should be essential reading
(and was partly written in prison because of his involvement in the
Indian liberation movement) The Arctic Home of the Vedas (1903). The
polar source explains the common structure of the Indo-European
languages, from Lithuanian to Sanskrit, as well as obvious
relationships between the Indo-European mythologies, and between the
archaic roman religion and the Vedic religion. For example, the
sacrifice of the horse, which took place in Rome each October in
honour of the god Mars, corresponds to the Vedic asvamedha in honour
of Indra. A similar ritual of the sacrifice of a horse can be found in
pagan Ireland. Let us be clear; this does not represent an Indian
influence over Rome or Ireland, or a Roman or Irish influence over
India, but a relationship due to a common origin, and one which dates
back in time to when our common Indo-European (the term “Aryan” is
awkward to use in Europe because of its nazi connotations) ancestors
still formed a single tribe (4).

In his famous book Shiva and Dionysus, Daniélou demonstrates that
between Lord Shiva and the Greek Dionysus, the pre-Aryan gods of
ecstasy and ways to harmony with nature and cosmos, there is a common
link, a 6000 years old way to unity with the divine (5).

Among the ordinary folk, the old traditions survived with a very thin
veneer of Christianity. Christianity (mainly Catholicism, more than
Protestantism) has retained many pre-Christian traditions (6). Good
examples are the feasts of the Nativity and that of St John, which
correspond to the winter and summer solstices respectively. The title
of «pope» comes from the liturgy of the mysteries of Mithra, an
Indo-Iranian God honoured by the armies of Rome. There are many
similar examples, which demonstrate that Europe is not fundamentally
Christian any more than India is fundamentally Muslim or China
fundamentally Marxist. All these alien ideologies have been imposed
from the outside, and as such their trace will be washed away with
time, like a bad painting on the hull of a ship.

If ancient India and ancient Europe both have common roots, so modern
India and modern Europe are both faced with common threats. Threats to
the ecosystem, climate changes, and other threats that mankind must
face up to. But there is another threat, which springs from the
Judeo-Christian way of thinking and is thus alien to our not-dogmatic,
non-proselytising and tolerant tradition: the phenomenon of
conversions. Conversion to the single model, be it the one God, the
single party system or the single market, or the supremacy of any
socio-political institution over the entire society.

Conversion to the one God, in the tradition of the religions of
Abraham. Conversions that Christian missionaries want to impose on
Indians crudely or by more subtle means. To some, the advantages of
egalitarianism, more preached than practiced by Christians, are
extolled. For others the civilizing character of conversion and the
possibility to forget their ancestral inheritance (thus betraying
their ancestors) is put forward. Manipulation by suspect persons such
as Mother Theresa, all the devices of systematic anti-Hindu
propaganda, have managed to make a considerable number of Hindus, who
for long have but weakly defended their traditions against these
deceptions, feel guilty. Fortunately, this period of alienation seems
to have ended with the coming to power of people prepared to defend
Hinduism (7). Let us hope that the harmful role of the Christian
missionaries will soon be neutralised, both in India and elsewhere.
Besides, our group is following with interest the work of the Hindu
Vivek Kendra to defend Hindu traditions against missionary aggression
and hate-propaganda (8).

Today in Europe, the danger no longer comes from the Catholic Church,
for it has run out of steam.
Since the Council of Vatican II in the sixties, the Church has openly
proved its decline : the sacred language – Latin (our « perfect »
language)- has been neglected and all the old mantras disappeared from
the Catholic pujas. The Catholic priests now turn their back to their
God, i.e. to the East, looking to the assistance (i.e. to the West),
which is complete inversion.

Christianity is an historical religion with a beginning and thus an
end. For us, followers of Sanatana Dharma, Eternal Tradition, this is
absurd… but their conception of time is linear, not cyclic. So it is
logic to say that the Christian reign will finish one day, as it
started 2000 years ago. This cycle is slowly but firmly closing.

This does not mean that the Church is not a danger anymore: it is
still (politically, financially) powerful. The declarations of the
Pope about the so-called conversion (i.e. spiritual aggression) of
India can be interpreted as a political error (he was invited by
ugly » Hindu fundamentalists and insulted the whole Indian people.
Can we imagine an Indian President urging the Italians to become
followers of Shiva or Vishnu?) but also as a sort of escape, out of
reality for in the West, churches are getting unoccupied, day after
day. The Church is now unable to find priests and must import African
priests, often ignorant. Contemporary Christians are really ignorant:
most of them believe in reincarnation, astrology, ignore hell and
paradise, in a word they ignore everything about theology but are
fascinated by Pagan heritage.

Rather the main danger comes from the colonisation of our countries
by immigrant Muslim North-African populations. One of our friends, the
writer and sociologist G. Faye published a controversial book on this
phenomenon. It has already caused considerable scandal in France,
although this has been kept from the readers by the “right-thinking”
press. The phenomenon is that of massive immigration into the country
by populations from Africa and the Maghreb (coming from the lower
levels of the social hierarchy) and through births in the immigrant
population. This is combined with an assault on Europe by an
aggressive form of Islam, supported by foreign powers such as Saudi
Arabia and Pakistan (9). Our proximity to North Africa, where there is
a rapid population increase, whilst in Europe the population is in
decline, and the serious imbalance between the two sides of the
Mediterranean, constitute serious threats and undermine Europe’s
cultural and ethnic homogeneity. Islamisation, particularly in France
but also in Great Britain and Germany, goes hand in hand with this
invasive immigration – and criticism of it is forbidden for fear of
being accused of «racism» (a good example of cultural and political
auto-alienation). Faye, who is also a Pagan, reminds us in his
«shocking» book that Islam is «absolute and proselytising universalism
with an imperative vocation to conquer the entire world». He is right.
Islam, a religion born of the desert, is above all a religion that
creates new mental, psychic and spiritual deserts; it is ethnically
and politically imperialistic; and one which believes in universal
conquest through violence, assisted by its ethics of exclusion and
intolerance. We have seen this in India…. But Europeans are not
interested in the history of real India, Hindu India. Dazzled by
Christian or Marxist ways of thinking, they prefer the fascination of
Muslim India. A revealing example: the most popular French tourist
guide to Delhi provides full information on the mosques in the
capital, but practically nothing on the temples! Faye also reminds us
that the Koran is above all a manual of subversive warfare, which
nobody reads. Those who have read it know that the book justifies
conquest in three stages:

1) Dar al Sulh: in this stage the Muslim community is a minority
community and momentarily adopts a peaceful attitude all the better to
dupe the infidel, who thus naively allows his soil to be proselytised.
(According to Le Monde of 9.12.99, 50,000 French people have converted
to Islam up till now). This is the position in Europe today.
2) Dar al Harb: the territory of the infidel becomes a war zone.
Perhaps there is resistance to Islam, or perhaps the Muslim population
has reached a critical mass. In Europe, we now see the first signs of
a low-intensity civil war: ethnic disturbances (which are not reported
in the press), and widespread rioting by the younger generations of
North Africans (who foray out from their no-go areas).
3) Dar al Islam: Muslims dominate the population and infidels are at
best tolerated (as dhimmis: « protected» and required to pay a special
tax) and at worst expelled or massacred. This was visible in Algeria
and Morocco following independence. And I will not insult you with an
explanation on the situation in Pakistan and Bangladesh after
partition and also the forceful mass-conversion of defeated Hindus
during 10th to 16th centuries in India.

Some imams have quite plainly stated that the objective, according to
God’s will, was to transform Europe into Dar al Islam. In all
evidence, the coming century will see a second wave of Muslim
expansion in the West. The first was successfully repulsed from the
8th century onwards. But to make such a statement in Europe today
makes one liable to prosecution (and Faye has just been indicted).
Politically correct dogma requires peaceful coexistence between
cultures; this is an utopic view that a basic study of history (for
example that of India) will destroy. A few months ago I had the
pleasure of meeting a very brave man, Ibn Warraq, in Paris, on the
occasion of the publication of the French version of his book: Why I
am not a Muslim. The book is the first criticism of substance of
Islam. The author confirmed the facts to me. Another author, Pierre
Gallois, a French Air Force General, instigator of the French nuclear
deterrent and a specialist of military strategy, has just published a
book with an evocating title: Le soleil d’Allah aveugle l’Occident
(The West is blinded by the sun of Allah) (10). These authors warn us
against the utopia of pacifism, and of the danger of remaining totally
blind to Islam as a deadly threat to secular traditions.

Another friend of ours, a political scientist and a specialist in
geopolitics, and a follower of General Gallois, has published a book
which also created a furore among “right-minded thinkers” (11). His
name is A. del Valle and his book demonstrates in a highly credible
fashion that, in Islam, faith is indissociable from political
theocracy. He further states that aggressive Islamism is not
«heretical» for it represents an application of the dogma of jihad, a
traditional and perfectly legitimate dogma for Muslims. Moreover, del
Valle proves that Islam, aggressive and expanding from Europe to
India, has found an ally as formidable as it is surprising: the United
States. For, ever since the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, the
Americans have armed and trained – often with the help of their Saudi
ally – the toughest Islamic movements. Our friend also shows that
Muslim fundamentalism cohabits perfectly with the most ferocious
capitalism. In the scenario of a confrontation between civilisations
predicted by a Pentagon analyst, S. Huntington, the USA would arm
Islam against Europe, Russia and India. As a result of the Gulf War,
the USA has total control over the oil wells of this strategic region.
To justify their support to the state of Israel, they support, for
example, the Muslims against the orthodox Slav block (Serbian war) in
the Balkans. They approve the indiscriminate immigration of Muslims to
Europe. They support the Turkish (neo-Ottoman) designs in Central Asia
(against Moscow) and support Turkey in its bid to join the European
Union. I will not lecture you on the role played by the Americans
against Delhi in Pakistan, which America considers as one of its
colonies: the aim, as in the case of Europe and Russia, is to weaken
an emerging power, in this case India.

Conversion too to the single party system, for example Marxism. The
collapse of the USSR in recent history has clearly shown the limits of
Marxism as a totalitarian doctrine, which cannot understand any other
civilisation than its own. And yet, despite the human failures, the
spiritual disasters, and the economic catastrophe it brought about,
there are still many firm believers in Marxism whose theories continue
to influence many people even in Europe. For instance, too many
journalist or scholars are still infected with Marxist dogmatism and
intolerance. Marxism is clearly linked to Christianity: same premises
(linear conception of time, refuge in outer worlds: celestial
Jerusalem or communist paradise, totalitarian egalitarianism which
condemns differences, inquisition and physical elimination of any
opposition, etc). Christian and Marxist propaganda agree to demonise
the old caste system, which preserved during centuries the identity of
India against all exterior aggressions. Due to this intellectual
terrorism, it is now difficult to tell the truth about casts, which
are an important part of India’s genius. Authors like Daniélou or
Dumont (in his book Homo hierarchicus) dare to say the truth: castes
are inherent in human nature.

In today’s context, the third form of conversion is, in my opinion,
the most dangerous. It is the conversion to the single market which
the media, as the agents of consumer propaganda, refer to as
globalisation. Globalisation is not unavoidable, a sort of inevitable
progress, which will bring peace and prosperity throughout the world
as liberal propaganda maintains. Behind the concept of globalisation
lies the United States of America’s ambition to dominate the world
economically, militarily and culturally. This is not «globalisation»,
but imperialism to colonise the world by any means. So-called
«globalisation» means making the planet American. There is no such
thing as «globalisation», which some represent as progress, others as
fate, but an all-out offensive campaign run from Washington to impose
North American models, which are but are universally-formatted
specific characteristics, on the whole planet.

The mask of capitalism, today in full expansion, is what I would call
humanitarian materialism. It dominates people’s minds thanks to a
gigantic mass violation of them. The media has become a propaganda
machine using a clever mixture of stick and carrot to “jam” the mind,
and its purpose is to gain the acceptance in the mentally confused
masses of the official credo: market democracy. As the American
linguist Noam Chomsky describes it so well: «propaganda is to
democracy what force is to a dictatorship, in effect its essence». And
yet, there really is confrontation between different imaginary worlds;
the North American realm of fancy against the other imaginary realms.
This confrontation creates other tensions of a political and economic

In this war of colonisation, Europe in the midst of political and
economic unification, India in full expansion, and Russia in full
decline, all constitute obstacles to America’s hegemonistic strategy.
In its overall strategy to weaken its opponents and gain overall
control, Washington uses all available means: financial weapons
(competition in the banking sector, rigged negotiations in the
framework of the WTO), food resources (OGM), military pressure (Balkan
War), espionage (Echelon network). Cultural weapons (television, CNN,
destabilising advertising: Coca Cola is more dangerous than the 6th
Fleet. Human materialism postulates a necessary but fatal «freedom» of
the individual from all his affiliations (race, class, profession,
religion, and even sex with the exaltation of homosexuality) and turn
him into a conditioned consumer, slave to the worst of masters, a
faceless master: the market (12).

These three main threats, conquest by Islam, Christian missions and
human materialism are all occurring simultaneously, and they are
self-reinforcing. Protestant missions, whether in India or in South
America or in Russia, prepare the coming of the American traders.
Islamic networks are supported by Washington indirectly through its
Sunni Saudi or Pakistani allies. The example of the oil kingdoms shows
clearlyl that Muslim or Protestant fundamentalism is compatible with
consumerism, as these ideologies postulate the tabula rasa or clean
slate and consider all ancestral traditions as obstacles to be pushed

What to do?

It would be silly to give up in despair, for the very fragile system
described above - one based on illusion – Maya - (typical of the
great dissolution of Kali Yuga), will only last for a short time. One
of our masters, René Guénon, a traditionalist thinker, already said in
1927, in his famous The Crisis of the modern world: « confusion, error
and darkness can win the day only apparently and in purely ephemeral
way… and nothing can ultimately prevail against the power of truth ».

Oscar Wilde once said that the United States had passed directly from
a state of savagery to a state of decadence. For the successors of the
great civilisations such as India and classical Europe, it is clear
that our potential destiny of becoming an annex of the American market
(Bible and Business) is unacceptable. Our work, and it is a noble
task, is to restore the Dharma, each according to his own traditions.

In Belgium, Antaios is modestly working towards this end, as does the
Voice of India and so many others. We have founded the Society of
Polytheistic Studies to raise funds, support our journal Antaios and
organise meetings. Our last meeting was in Paris with a lecture given
by prof. Maffesoli, one of the most influent French sociologist… who
is a Polytheist ! For the moment, we are just a minority, slowly
growing, sometimes demonised or ignored by the press and the
University (but in England there are some Pagan scholars). I myself
plan to publish a Pagan manifesto in October: Parcours païen (Pagan
Itinerary) (Ed. L’Age d’Homme, Lausanne) in the same publishing house
as Ibn Warraq’s book Why I am not a Muslim.

In Lithuania, the World Congress of Ethnic Religions has been created
: it would be nice that Hindus become members of this association
devoted to the defence of Paganism. WCER organises an annual meeting
with people coming from Poland, Iceland, Russia, Belgium, France, etc.

In France, a more radical movement (closer to RSS style) has started
to be spoken about: Terre et Peuple. Its president, a professor of
medieval history and a well-known Indophile, has recently published a
manifesto in which he calls upon Europeans to rid themselves of
consumerism and nihilism, to rediscover their pagan origin (14), and
to combat the development of Islam on the continent. These constitute
the modest signs of a reaction to the deep crisis. There are others,
much more important. The Seattle demonstrations; the coming to power,
in the world’s biggest democracy, of a party which openly dares to
defend the Dharma; the still embryonic renaissance of native
religions; and the interest in the environment worldwide: all these
are signs of a reply to the disorder engendered by liberalism.

In the battle we find the same enemy, our worse enemy: our own
weakness, our own ignorance and divisions.

We Resistance fighters all over the Eurasiatic continent, from Ireland
to India, need a large alliance against chaos and destruction, for the
defence of Dharma, the noblest task for our generation.

Europeans can warn you against dangers of modernity and we can find in
India an ally able to assist us in a return to our native culture “out
of the ruins of the West”. Europe has to free itself from the West and
re-discover its true identity, true to the Dharma. In this endeavour,
the rediscovery of India and the ancient relationship between the
Vedic civilisation and the ancient Greek and Celtic civilisations
will, for example, be of great assistance. As the philosopher
Nietzsche said: «the man of the future will be the man with the
longest memory». Ram Swarup, sage of the Vedic renaissance, says the
same thing in his spiritual legacy. I shall quote it as my concluding
remark: «The Ramayana and the Mahabharata can help in restoring this
lost dimension». Let us follow in his footsteps and re-read the
pre-Socratic Greek philosophers and the Upanishads of India to obtain
our self-rediscovery.

We know that as we say in Latin « Vincit omnia veritas ». In your
sacred language, you would say « Satyam eva jayate ». (15)

Thank you for your attention.

New Delhi, 22nd July 2000

The lecture was organised by Vishwa Adhyayan Kendra, held in
Constitution Club, New Delhi, with prof L. Chandra and K.R. Malkani.


(1) Ram Swarup, On Hinduism. Reviews and Reflections, Voice of India,
Delhi 2000.
(2) Antaios X, Hindutva, Interviews with Ram Swarup and Sita Ram Goel
(in French), Brussels 1996.
(3) A. Daniélou, The way of the Labyrint. Memories of East and West,
New Directions Paperbook, New York 1987. First edition in 1981, in
(4) J. Haudry, The Indo-Europeans, Institut d’Etudes Indo-Européennes,
Lyon 1994. See also B. Oguibenine, Essays on Vedic and Indo-European
Culture, Motilal Banarsidass, Delhi 1998.
(5) A. Daniélou, Shiva and Dionysus, Inner Traditions Intern., New
York 1984
(6) R. Fletcher, The Conversion of Europe. From Paganism to
Christianity 371-1386 AD, Harper Collins, London 1997. And the
remarkable work of two Pagan scholars: P. Jones & N. Pennick, A
History of Pagan Europe, Routledge, London 1995.
(7) K. Elst, Psychology of Prophetism. A Secular Look at the Bible,
Voice of India, Delhi 1993. See also Sita Ram Goel, Jesus Christ. An
Artifice for Aggression, Voice of India, Delhi 1994 and, Defense of
Hindu Society, Voice of India, Delhi 1994.
(8) A.V. Chowgule, Christianity in India. The Hindutva Perspective,
Hindu Vivek Kendra, Mumbai 1999.
(9) G. Faye, La Colonisation de l’Europe. Discours vrai sur l’
immigration et l’islam, Aencre, Paris 2000.
(10) Ibn Warraq, Pourquoi je ne suis pas Musulman, L’Age d’Homme,
Lausanne 1999. See also P.M. Gallois, Le soleil d’Allah aveugle l’
Occident, Age d’Homme, Lausanne 1998.
(11) A. del Valle, Islamisme et Etats-Unis. Une alliance contre l’
Europe, Age d’Homme, Lausanne 1997.
(12) See Le Monde diplomatique, mai 2000: « L’Amérique dans les
têtes ».
(13) R. Guénon, The Crisis of the Modern World, Indica Books, Benares
(14) P. Vial, Une Terre, un peuple, Ed. Terre et Peuple, Lyon 2000
email: terreetpeuple@hotmail.com).
(15) R. Guénon, The Crisis of the Modern World, op. cit., p. 142.

#5432 - 09/08/00 08:04 AM Re: Christians Converting to Hinduism [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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In reply to:

One of our masters, René Guénon, a traditionalist thinker, already said in 1927, in his famous The Crisis of the modern world: « confusion, error and darkness can win the day only apparently and in purely ephemeral way… and nothing can ultimately prevail against the power of truth ».

Is Rene Guenon, alias SHEYKH ABDEL WAHED YAHYA who lived and died with the name of Allah on his lips really your master? Do you know than many of these 50 000 French who coverted to Islam did that through Guenon and guenonists?


#5433 - 11/04/00 05:17 PM Orissa: 70 Hindus convert to Hinduism [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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Seventy Christians reconvert to Hinduism in Orissa

Rediff On The Net
Tuesday, October 24, 2000

About 70 members of 12 tribal Christian families have
formally reconverted to Hinduism at Khandibara village
Nawrangpur district in Orissa, district Superintendent of
Police, Ghanashyam Parida said on Tuesday. Parida said
the tribals, who had earlier embraced Christianity, had
virtually returned to the Hindu fold about a decade ago.

Last Sunday, they were formally reconverted to Hinduism
at a function held in the village, which was attended by
some local Vishwa Hindu Parishad leaders, Parida said.

He said these tribal families had not given any prior
intimation to the district collector regarding their

The district authorities had already submitted a report
to the state government in this regard, he said.

Tuesday, October 24, 2000
Click on the Rediff link at News Plus

#5434 - 11/26/00 07:17 PM Kerala: Italian couple convert to Hinduism [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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The Times of India News Service
The Times of India
Sunday, November 5, 2000

Tiruvananthapuram - Two Italians who flew in here with
friends for Ayurved treatment have decided to tie the
knot according to Hindu rites at a Shiv temple here on

Mason Graziella, a Homeo doctor and Schaffelke Dietmar, a
music producer told the Times of India over the phone
that they were attracted to Hinduism for its catholicity
and vedanta. Currently the couple and 13 of their Italian
friends are staying at Nikki's Nest in Vizhinjam.

Both of them are divorcees. Dietmar is a 42-year-old
divorcee with a boy and Graziella, 38, has a daughter
born from her earlier marriage. The kids, they said, have
given their consent and wishes.

According to Dr. Franklin who treated the couple with
'panchkarm' Ayurved for rejuvenation, the two had
expressed their desire to get married according to Hindu
rites at a famous temple. They chose the Shiv temple
there and got an astrologer to fix a muhurtham which is
on Sunday at 5.30 p.m. They also believed that the
marriage has longevity if conducted according to Hindu

#5435 - 01/25/01 09:44 PM Chhattisgarh: 2200 Christians convert [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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Title: Mass Conversion comes Wrapped in a Saree
Author: Suchandana Gupta
Source: The Telegraph, Calcutta
Date: January 26, 2001
URL: None available

Raigharh, January 25

A synthetic saree their rite of passage, thousands of Christian tribals reverted to their "natural" state of Hinduism in Chhatisgarh yesterday.

The stadium in Sitapur in Sarguja district, 145 km from here, was the venue for the mass "reconversion". As the grounds burnt with 25 havans (fire-pits) dug for the afternoon ceremony and as the flames fed on gallons of ghee, 2200 tribals from 341 families were "born again" as Hindus, at the best of Dilip Singh Judeo, BJP Rajya Sabha MP.

A new saree or a cottom dhoti was handed over as a symbolic way of casting away Christianity.

Most of the tribals, who had not seen a new piece of cloth for severl years, happily received the mantra from Ram Chandra Mishra, the royal priest of the Judeo palace in Jashpur. The BJP MP behind the yajna is a member of the erstwhile royal family of Jashpur.

The "reconversion", less than 24 hours after the Congress President Sonia Gandhi's first visit to Chhatisgarh, was said to carry a direct political message aimed at chief minister Ajit Jogi, a tribal Christian.

Judeo claimed his party had nothing to do with this conversion. "The BJP does not figure at all. This is my mission alone". The "mission" was named "ghar wapasi".

The poverty sticken, starving tribals who gathered since early morning to "return to their origins" belonged to the Uraon Scheduled Tribe.

A "purification" followed by the "conversion" rites with the sprinkling of Ganga water. "After the 'gangajal', we administer two or three drops f the panchagap," said Mishra. "Panchagap is a mixture of cowdung, urine, milk, ghee and curd. At the end, we ask the convert to throw in a betel leaf, a betel nut, a piece of coconut and sprinkle some water over the fire," the head priest added.

A talisman with the picture of a Hindu god was tied around a convert's neck, after which the tribals were served a hearty meal of rice, dal, vegetables and pickle, The BJP MP sat on a low stool in the open field and washed the feet of every "new" Hindu. "When the church converts, they have plenty to give the tribals, be it bread, butter, medicines, treatment, clothes, rice, pulses, oil. We cannot afford so much," Judeo said.

"So far we have converted no less than 1,65,000 Christian tribals from Orissa, Bihar and Maharashtra," Judeo claimed.

Most of the tribals said that they were "disillusioned" with Christianity. "Mine was a Hindu family. But some 20 years ago the preachers came. They spoke of Christ and equality amongst all. They said that they would educate us, feed us, clothe us and that no one would be any higher than the other," said 50-year old Manjuram of village Jamdohri. "Food flowed into our home like we had never ever dreamt before. In return we had only to visit Church every Sunday. My whole family converted. But immediately after the conversion, the supplies stopped. The priests diverted their attention from us to our neighbors," Manjuram added.

You regret that for a few freebies you gave up the religion, your God, the belief that our forefathers nurtured for centuries. Birsa Munda was one amongst us. He fought the British for the country. And I gave up my religion for a few kilos of rice. It's like you have betrayed your ancestors, your own blood," said Gandhi Bara of village Katkalu.

"So when the offer came from Kumarji (Judeo), I readily agreed," he added. "I have retured to my roots now. I will paint my house white today. Kumarji has said he will supply the whitewash," he added, explaining that in this belt a Christian house is painted with black charcoal and a Hindu house is painted white or blue.

#5436 - 01/30/01 09:55 PM Californian converts to Hinduism [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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Hinduism lures Californian

Janaki Bahadur Kremmer

Published 1/30/01


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