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#3880 - 08/02/02 02:22 AM Muslim kills Hindu family members *** [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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Two small boys made a grisly discovery in
their Jersey City home yesterday - their mom, pregnant aunt and
grandmother savagely stabbed to death in a domestic dispute, according
to police, that was fueled by what kin called a religious feud between
the aunt and her husband.
On a front window in plain view of the street, one of the desperate
victims left a smudged handprint of blood.
Andrew Yassin, 5, and his brother, Christopher, 2, woke up at about 7
a.m. and found the bloodied bodies of mom Sharon Yassin, 30; aunt Marlyn
Hassan, 28, who was six months pregnant with twins; and maternal
grandmother, Bernadette Seajatan, 49.
The victims, who lived with their spouses in the modest two-story home
at 10 Fox Place, were all found on the floor in pools of blood - Sharon
and Bernadette in their bedrooms and Marlyn in a hallway.
"My mommy's dead. Please call 911," Andrew told neighbor Asifa Bedun.
"She's downstairs. Everyone is dead downstairs. I came out to get help,"
the youngster, standing in the driveway with Christopher, told Donna
Duesbury, a cousin, when she arrived at the home at 8 a.m.
Cops last night were looking for Marlyn's husband, Alim Hassan, whom
they want to question in the vicious triple homicide.
"It appears as if the killings are the result of some sort of domestic
violence," Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio said.
"At this point it appears it is not a stranger-on-stranger event."
He refused to say whether Alim is a suspect, adding that no arrest
warrants have been issued.
But grieving relatives, including Donna and Bernadette's husband, Baldeo
Seajatan, 51, said Alim, an auto mechanic, had been engaged in a bitter,
ongoing dispute with his wife over what religion they would raise the
The entire family is Hindu, except for Alim, who's a devout Muslim, they
"Since [Marlyn] got pregnant, they've been arguing how they're going to
raise the kids," said Donna.
"They would fight [all the time] over what religion the children would
Choked with emotion, Baldeo said Alim demanded that Marlyn convert to
Islam - and that "he got crazy over the last few months" over the issue
of faith.
"She didn't want to become a practicing Muslim," said Baldeo, an NJ
Transit bus driver.
"My daughter was very tired and she was pregnant and she wouldn't pray
five times a day [to Allah]. He [was really] mad over that."
Donna said the bloody handprint found on one of the front windows was
Bernadette's, as she tried to escape the clutches of their cold-blooded
"She must have been making a desperate attempt to get help," said Donna.
"My aunt was a fighter. I was shocked and numbed when I saw it."
There were no signs of a break-in, cops said.
Neighbors on the tranquil, tree-lined block were horrified by the
gruesome triple murder.
Angelo Faccone called the victims, all natives of Guyana, "beautiful"
people - and said Sharon loved playing outside with her kids.
"It's such a shame," said Faccone, who's lived on the block for the past
40 years.
"They were three very beautiful women. This is terrible. I've never
heard of anything like this happening on this block."
Baldeo's grief-stricken brother, Deodath Seajatan, said he's devastated
by the triple slaying.
"They didn't deserve this," he said through tears. "I can't believe this
happened to my family."

#3881 - 08/02/02 02:24 AM Muslim activities in Rajasthan [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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#3882 - 08/02/02 02:26 AM The Mess in Bosnia [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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#3883 - 08/10/02 03:56 AM ISLAM'S SILENT MAJORITY [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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Innocents are killed in Murree, Pakistan , at a school
that I visited from time to time as a teenager. Wall
Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl loses his life in
Karachi, a town that was once my home. And an
Islamabad church is attacked, just a few miles away
from another previous home. In each incident, the name
of Allah is invoked. The question is then asked once
again: Is Islam a religion of peace?

Many Muslims are peaceful, and I was raised in one
such family. However, it's quite clear that they are
by and large not the hosts of the party, but rather
bashful guests. For the sake of their faith -- and for
the sake of a world that Islam professes to care about
-- the time has come for them to step forward, take
control of their assembly, and kick out those who
preach a more violent version of the faith.

My family's story intersects in odd ways with the
narrative being played out globally. While recognizing
the demands of self-defense and just war, I have a
pacifistic streak; that streak did not seem to be
accommodated within Islam, so I affiliated with
another religion, much to the chagrin of my family.

Here is where they began setting a good example for
their faith. Many such families toss out apostates in
the best-case scenario and often do much more -- a
Kurdish immigrant in Sweden killed his adult daughter
in January for defying their heritage. But my family
made peace with my decision and kept me in the fold.

When it came to light after Sept. 11 that Pakistani
madrasas had nourished a culture of hatred, my father
used a significant amount of his life savings to build
new schools in his mud-hut hometown village -- schools
that would offer a liberal education and inculcate an
anti-extremist approach to civil life and offer
economic opportunity to marginalized youths.

Such acts come at the risk of inflaming the passions
of radicals. People like my father will need the
support and protection of like-minded moderates. Most
Muslims are in fact both moderate and cowardly, but
perhaps understandably so; they are buffeted by
bullying forces unlike anything we know. American
agnostics who dislike saying the Pledge of Allegiance,
like spoiled princesses who feel a pea under a stack
of mattresses, have no idea how good they have it.

The bullying limits opposition to nothing more than
snide mutterings among progressives cowering at dinner
parties in Pakistan , Palestine or Saudi Arabia. Far
be it from them to challenge extremism publicly,
however -- it's not worth the fight or the trouble, in
their minds.

But now their very civilization is at stake -- and so
is that of the West. It's time to put one's money
where one's prayers are. The rest of the world is
looking on with puzzlement and fear, wondering where
the heart of Islam lies. In all likelihood, the outcry
against Islam will grow deafening in coming months and
years. This will polarize moderate Muslims: Either
they will feel under attack and align themselves fully
with their fundamentalist cousins, or they will become
radical moderates, fighting for the honor of Islam
against these backward cousins. The former scenario
would be a disaster for the planet.

Here, one can learn from white Americans. Fifty years
ago, racist views were tolerated, even encouraged by
mainstream society. The Marge Schotts of our nation
used to get away with their rantings, thanks to the
tepid response of most white citizens; but now, such
bigots are ostracized with devastating swiftness.
Sure, you can be a racist -- but you'd better keep it
under wraps if you plan on working in this town again.

Let that be a lesson for Muslims. Too many people have
been thrown out of Muslim families for being
insufficiently fundamentalist. Start throwing out sons
and daughters for being insufficiently peaceful. Too
many Muslims are more bothered by competing forms of
monotheism than by demonic forces rumbling in their
own camp. Too many hundreds of millions of Muslims can
tolerate, rationalize and even promote violence. All
this must change, and change now.

Granted, the language of the Koran can seem aggressive
and belligerent to some ears. But let the graceful
image of Prophet Mohammed, depicted by scholars such
as Huston Smith, become the normative one for Muslims
and Westerners alike. The prophet was long-suffering
and merciful toward Meccan authorities who had abused
him during his ministry. Let a Palestinian child
meditate on that. Let Muslims tolerate no lower
standard of civic life, and divorce all those who
would object.

The five million Muslims who call the United States
home are the best candidates to step forward and set
this standard. Doing so would give Islam an authentic
claim as a religion of peace.

Mr. Asghar is a Los Angeles-based editor of management
and leadership books.

#3884 - 08/10/02 04:24 AM Muslim, Arab vendors boycott 'biased' New York Pos [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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Friday August 2, 5:21 AM

Muslim, Arab vendors boycott 'biased' New York Post

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Hundreds of Muslim and Arab-American
newspaper vendors in New York are boycotting the New York Post,
accusing Rupert Murdoch's tabloid of bias against Muslims,
protest organizers said on Thursday.

A flyer distributed throughout Brooklyn -- the most populous of
New York's five boroughs -- urges people to stop buying, selling
or even reading the Post, in light of the "increasing level of
hatred" in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 on the United States by
Arab hijackers.

"We met with people from the Post twice and we asked them to stop
spreading the hate in our society. They refused," said Zein
Rimawi of the Brooklyn-based Arab-American Muslim Federation that
is coordinating the campaign.

A spokeswoman for the Post confirmed the meetings but said the
paper stood by its coverage.

Rimawi said a number of mosques and Arab churches, concerned that
the newspaper's domestic coverage and its reporting on the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict is biased against Arabs and Muslims,
are backing the action, which started small, by word-of-mouth.

"It has become very obvious that the 'war on terrorism' is
actually a 'war on Islam' ... We see many members of our
community imprisoned and detained for months without any pressed
charges against them ... the assets of many of our charity
organization have been frozen," the pamphlet says.

The United States has responded to the hijack attacks that killed
more than 3,000 people in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania
with sweeping new security measures, rounding up hundreds of
immigrants and investigating links to terror financing.

Rimawi said he hoped vendors in New Jersey would join the boycott
next month and said organizers are now looking to enlist the help
of larger Muslim groups such as the Islamic Circle of North

Between 400 and 500 newspaper vendors have agreed to stop selling
the Post, Rimawi said. The Post, however, disagreed.

"The number is significantly smaller than that," the Post
spokeswoman said.

"We stand by our coverage. As often happens on sensitive issues,
some members of the community have expressed concerns and we
listen to those concerns," she added.

In March, the Post reported daily circulation of 562,639 over the
past six months.

#3885 - 10/19/02 08:41 PM Muslims in Thailand want to secede [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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Thai Muslim separatists vow to fight on for homeland.

BANGKOK (AFP) - A Muslim separatist group operating in Thailand's south has
vowed to pursue its independence struggle despite the sentencing to life
imprisonment of three of its leaders, a report said Thursday.

The group also reportedly said it "considers the Thai Constitution illegitimate
in the area and its members are not under Thai jurisdiction" and that it
"deserves the right to react accordingly".

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#3886 - 10/20/02 03:06 AM Egypt: Christians face persecution [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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Christians (Copts) unhappy in Islamic Egypt

The Editor of a Christian paper in Egypt has written an open letter to the
Egyptian Minister of Interior on 9th October 2002 that the present Laws in Egypt
are discriminatory against Christians in as much as the Laws prevent the
construction of new Churches in Egypt. For details see:

(Courtesy: aoiscn@yahoogroups.com)

An Egyptian Christian writer living in New York city has given a critical
account of the Egyptian government's treatment given to its Christian minority,
complaining on the following lines: -
i) Every time, the State rewards the Muslim extremists for their crimes against
Christians instead of punishing them.
ii) The Muslim mobs run wild in burning of Christian homes and churches and
building mosques in their places.
iii) The Laws for establishing Christian houses of worship in Egypt are
oppressive, and humiliating.
iv) The Egyptian government tries to create a false image in Europe and USA that
the Christians in Egypt receive very good treatment from the government and the
people of Egypt.
v) Special announcements are made from the loudspeakers of mosques inciting the
Muslims against the Christians.
vi) Saudi Arabia has provided money for growth of Islamic extremism in Egypt.
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#3887 - 10/20/02 03:17 AM Re: Instances of Muslim Bigotry [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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Europe awakens to its Islamic nightmare
From: "There are 230,000 people living in polygamous marriages in France, and the media recently brought to scrutiny the case of an unemployed Morrocan immigrant whose social security allowance for his three wives and twenty children amounted to $6000 a month."
Date: 22 Sep 2002
Time: 08:02:37

Europeans wary of 'political Islam' By Andrew Borowiec THE WASHINGTON TIMES

GENEVA &#8212; A year after the devastating attacks by Islamic fanatics in the United States, Western Europe is trying to come to grips with what it identifies as "political Islam" in its midst.

Governments are seeking to determine to what extent the estimated 12 million Muslims, mostly from Arab countries, serve as a pool for potential terrorists and a destabilizing factor in Western Europe's open and vulnerable societies.

Accompanying the intelligence and security process across the Continent is an effort to assimilate the growing Muslim population that in a number of countries &#8212; including France, Germany and Britain &#8212; now constitutes the second largest religious group.

As Muslim populations grow, authorities are discovering that they tend to group in urban ghettoes, resist assimilation and frequently become a source of tension and a politically divisive factor.

At the same time, leaders of Muslim communities in Europe, as well as in their home countries, say that their immigrants are discriminated against, left at the mercy of unscrupulous employers and often deprived of legal protection.

A recent conference in Tunis was told that European governments were refusing or limiting visas for Arab immigrants from North Africa, and that immigrants already in Western Europe were experiencing increased discrimination at work and social ostracism.

Noureddine Hached, assistant secretary-general of the 22-member Arab League, says that xenophobia has been on the rise in Europe since the September 11 attacks last year, that immigration has been restricted and that Muslim communities are "losing their Arab identity" under European pressure.

European and Muslim sociologists are debating a question to which no one has found a satisfactory answer: how to harmonize traditional Islam with a surrounding modern European society.

According to Oussama Cheribbi, a professor at the University of Amsterdam, "Islam should be taken out of the ghettos" and not be left "in the hands of imams preaching Shariah [Islamic traditional law]."

There is little doubt that deprived of freedom of action in their own countries, a number of Islamic fanatics have found a convenient haven in Western Europe.

It was only after September 11 last year that the authorities realized that terrorist cells thrived in Muslim communities in European cities, and that subversive literature was distributed in mosques where imams often called for an Islamic victory over Christianity and Judaism.

They found that "political Islam" was unquestionably on the rise in Europe, including activities of fundamentalist movements banned in Tunisia and Algeria, whose extent had been ignored by European governments until the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.

Since May and June this year, U.S. and European intelligence agencies have increased cooperation with their North African counterparts to track down recruitment centers for suicide bombers. It has been established that a number of prospective Arab terrorists had become "radicalized" while in Europe, rather than in their home countries.

Among suspects with North African links arrested recently were Mounir Motassadeq, a Moroccan citizen accused of helping with plans for the September 11 attacks; Djamel Beghal, an Algerian who acknowledged planning attacks against American targets, and four Moroccans accused of preparing a bioterror attack on the U.S. Embassy in Rome.

Sweden, Denmark and the Netherlands, noted as havens of tolerance, have begun to look for new formulas to cope with myriad Islamic organizations on their territories.

According to Roger Van Boxtel, former minister in charge of integration in the Netherlands, the most effective formula is to "identify enemies through security services and follow it up through intensive assimilation. Under no circumstances should the Muslim communities [as a whole] be blamed for acts committed by a few fanatics."

Although governments, educational and social institutions are painfully aware of the magnitude of the problem and are trying to remedy it in a humane manner, they are also faced with an inevitable popular reaction that blames Muslims for the rising crime rate and declining educational standards in state schools.

European sociologists note that over the centuries countries such as France have absorbed millions of immigrants &#8212; but mainly from such Christian countries as Spain, Italy and Poland.

By the end of the 20th century, these immigrants were part of French society, identified principally by their family names. They did not make demands for specific forms of dress or special respect for their national customs. They simply blended in with the surrounding culture, unlike most immigrants from Islamic countries.

According to most assessments, until recently Europe had been ceding ground to militant Islam in a number of ways.

In the Netherlands, where Muslims represent a million of the country's 16 million inhabitants, imams have been given the same status as priests and rabbis.

In Austria, where there are 400,000 registered Muslims and Islam is recognized as the second religion after Catholicism, 40 public schools offer courses on Islam and its history.

In Belgium, the state finances the construction of mosques and Islamic religion is taught in schools when requested by students.

In France, which has an Islamic population of 4 million, there are 1,430 mosques, financed mainly by Saudi Arabia and Morocco.

There are 230,000 people living in polygamous marriages in France, and the media recently brought to scrutiny the case of an unemployed Moroccan immigrant whose social security allowance for his three wives and 20 children amounted to $6,000 a month.

In Switzerland, the authorities bowed to Islamic pressure and allowed Muslim women to be photographed for their identity cards wearing the traditional scarf.

Before last year's carnage in New York, Washington and rural Pennsylvania, the Islamic message in Europe was becoming increasingly strident. For example, the imam of Bradford in England appealed to his congregation to struggle "with the aim of replacing secular values by Islam."

A booklet printed in Saudi Arabia and distributed throughout Europe describes the aim of Muslim societies as "trying to become one day a majority through reciprocal assimilation with the non-Islamic majority which will gradually accept the morals and religion of Islam."

#3888 - 10/20/02 03:52 AM Something Rotten in Danmark? [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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August 27, 2002 -- A Muslim group in Denmark announced a few days ago that a $30,000 bounty would be paid for the murder of several prominent Danish Jews, a threat that garnered wide international notice. Less well known is that this is just one problem associated with Denmark's approximately 200,000 Muslim immigrants. The key issue is that many of them show little desire to fit into their adopted country.
For years, Danes lauded multiculturalism and insisted they had no problem with the Muslim customs - until one day they found that they did. Some major issues:

* Living on the dole: Third-world immigrants - most of them Muslims from countries such as Turkey, Somalia, Pakistan, Lebanon and Iraq - constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending.

* Engaging in crime: Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes.

* Self-imposed isolation: Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less mix with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane.

* Importing unacceptable customs: Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are one problem.

Another is threats to kill Muslims who convert out of Islam. One Kurdish convert to Christianity, who went public to explain why she had changed religion, felt the need to hide her face and conceal her identity, fearing for her life.

* Fomenting anti-Semitism: Muslim violence threatens Denmark's approximately 6,000 Jews, who increasingly depend on police protection. Jewish parents were told by one school principal that she could not guarantee their children's safety and were advised to attend another institution. Anti-Israel marches have turned into anti-Jewish riots. One organization, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, openly calls on Muslims to "kill all Jews . . . wherever you find them."

* Seeking Islamic law: Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim.

Other Europeans (such as the late Pim Fortuyn in Holland) have also grown alarmed about these issues, but Danes were the first to make them the basis for a change in government.

In a momentous election last November, a center-right coalition came to power that - for the first time since 1929 - excluded the socialists. The right broke its 72-year losing streak and won a solid parliamentary majority by promising to handle immigration issues, the electorate's first concern, differently from the socialists.

The next nine months did witness some fine-tuning of procedures: Immigrants now must live seven years in Denmark (rather than three) to become permanent residents. Most non-refugees no longer can collect welfare checks immediately on entering the country. No one can bring into the country an intended spouse under the age of 24. And the state prosecutor is considering a ban on Hizb-ut-Tahrir for its death threats against Jews.

These minor adjustments prompted howls internationally - with European and U.N. reports condemning Denmark for racism and "Islamophobia," the Washington Post reporting that Muslim immigrants "face habitual discrimination," and a London Guardian headline announcing that "Copenhagen Flirts with Fascism."

In reality, however, the new government barely addressed the existing problems. Nor did it prevent new ones, such as the death threats against Jews or a recent Islamic edict calling on Muslims to drive Danes out of the Norrebro quarter of Copenhagen.

The authorities remain indulgent. The military mulls permitting Muslim soldiers in Denmark's volunteer International Brigade to opt out of actions they don't agree with - a privilege granted to members of no other faith. Mohammed Omar Bakri, the self-proclaimed London-based "eyes, ears and mouth" of Osama bin Laden, won permission to set up a branch of his organization, Al-Muhajiroun.

Contrary to media reports, the real news from Denmark is not flirting with fascism but getting mired in inertia. A government elected specifically to deal with a set of problems has made minimal headway. Its reluctance has potentially profound implications for the West as a whole.

Daniel Pipes (www.DanielPipes.org) is author of "Militant Islam Reaches America" (W.W. Norton). Lars Hedegaard is a regular contributor to two Copenhagen newspapers, Berlingske Tidende and Weekendavisen

#3889 - 11/18/02 03:22 AM Pakistan: Harrassment of Hindus [Re: Vishal_Agarwal]
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Plight of Hindus in Pakistan (a Pakistani Hindu's testimony)

Courtesy: takshshila@yahoogroups.com Date: 14th November 2002.

Plight of Hindus in Pakistan
By Kanayalal M. Talreja

Mr. Talreja was born in 1936 at Dist. Sukkur, (Sindh, Pakistan). After the
partition of the country, he stayed in Sindh for 17 years, and obtained M.A.
degree in English literature from University of Sind in 1962.

He was a first position holder up to the University examinations. He was awarded
four medals by the Governor of West Pakistan. He launched his career as a
primary teacher and reached the position of lecturer in English at Government
College Sukkur.He fought
dauntlessly for the rights of Hindus in Pakistan, and liberated famous
Sadhubella Temple from the grip of Pakistan Government in 1962.

In Sindh, he championed the cause of the depressed and down-traded Hindus. He
migrated to Bharat in 1964. The following is the account of his years in
after 1947:

"During those days, I saw every where total contempt for Hindu and their gods.
Hindus are treated as untouchables and served water or tea in separate glasses
and are not to visit Muslim houses. The plight of Hindu girls and women is much
worse. They cannot go out freely or fearlessly. They could not go to schools or
colleges, as there was a chance of being abducted.

Study of Arabic or Persian is compulsory in all schools and colleges. Study of
Islamic religion is compulsory in all schools and colleges. The textbooks carry
venom and hatred against Hindu and Bharat. Hinduism is berated as an inferior
religion and Islam is portrayed as a superior religion in the textbooks. Their
history books extol Md. Ghazni, Ghori, Babar and Aurangzeb as heroes and run
down Rana Sanga, Shivaji and Rana Pratap as cowards. The next books state that
the Hindus are not the original sons of Bharat and that they came from outside.

The textbooks highlight the rights of Kashmiris and attack Bharat as the
aggressor. The students are brainwashed from the primary classes upwards and are
turned into fanatics.

Can any one expect the Pakistanis to ever extend the hand of friendship in the
context of this indoctrination?

No Hindu can run a business unless he has a Muslim as a sleeping partner.

Many of the Hindu temples have been desecrated or destroyed or converted into
Government offices or godowns.

Illegal encroachments on Hindu temples, goshalas and lands, molestation and
abduction of Hindu girls, demanding of huge ransoms in kidnap cases and frequent
arrests of Hindus on false charges are the order of the day in Pakistan. The
population of Hindus which stood at one crore in 1947 has come down to 17 lakhs.

For details see:


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